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Commitment, Aging and Spirituality: An Interview by Dr. Bruce Chalmer

How can we age well? As the proportion of the population above 65 continues to grow, this question is occupying more and more of our minds. Caryl and Jay talk with couples therapist Dr. Bruce Chalmer, author of Reigniting the Spark, and his co-host and wife, Judy Alexander.

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Aired August 11, 2023. See original post here.

The Courage to Love and Be Loved

“What would it be like to be with couples who weren’t afraid to talk about their inner lives, weren’t afraid to look at some of the wounding that has happened in their marriage, and talk about how they work through this stuff. And also how would aging impact all of that.” The Casbons are interviewed by Shelly L. Francis, founder of Creative Courage Press. Recording date: July 12, 2023.